tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1367053740188758246.post7827434062889696915..comments2023-06-21T00:39:34.443-07:00Comments on Dosbat: Is Arctic Sea Ice Like a Cup or a Ball?Chris Reynoldshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16843133350978717556noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1367053740188758246.post-66669350629118114572015-05-04T03:36:20.586-07:002015-05-04T03:36:20.586-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Milton Silvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02889224390656682640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1367053740188758246.post-29756941945536152072015-05-02T22:35:50.402-07:002015-05-02T22:35:50.402-07:00Yes they may well do so.
However whilst there is ...Yes they may well do so.<br /><br />However whilst there is surviving ice at the end of the summer there will be compaction of ice against the Canadian Arctic Archipelago. This keep a remnant of thick ice there, which will be more resilient to melt. Wave action may break up such ice but there will still be enough mass to present a barrier to melt.<br /><br />Furthermore, stronger storms will have the potential for deep mixing bringing some of the heat of the Atlantic Water layer into play at the surface. But once again this will be working on ice volume many metres thick.<br /><br />It is quite feasible that the first virtually ice free minimum (or later on the first totally sea ice free minimum) will be a one off, followed by a succession of summers without that state. This is because such an event may have a summer storm as a key player in the virtually ice free / ice free minimum. The issue being that even with a general trend of increasing storms, the exact position and timing of storms, indeed even whether a summer is stormy or not, is random in nature.<br /><br />So the claim that a sea ice free or virtually ice free state is here may turn out to be premature.<br /><br />What counts for the trend in summer minimum, and winter maximum is the amount of forcing from AGW.Chris Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16843133350978717556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1367053740188758246.post-28176180673880554272015-05-02T15:08:02.245-07:002015-05-02T15:08:02.245-07:00Yeah, but what about...
http://www.scientificamer...Yeah, but what about...<br /><br />http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/giant-waves-quickly-destroy-arctic-ocean-ice-and-ecosystems1/<br /><br />Might retreating, thinning ice not admit waves large enough to cause sudden, widespread breakups?<br />-<br />Adam R.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com